Comments on: Wasted innovation: Google Wave

By: Mourya

Mourya — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:55:39 +0000

I expected much from Wave and i am dissapointed. Like you said, the only feature that i can see is live typing and i am not able to uderstand how to make use of it …

By: Bowets

Bowets — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:51:02 +0000

This is definitely the best post I’ve read since the Wave hype began. It’s being promoted as a must have for everyone, but I see absolutely no purpose for my needs… Or the needs of most people for that matter.
Maybe in a few years it’ll be relevant, but not now. Google is always a step ahead, but this time I think they went further than they should have.

By: michael

michael — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:57:13 +0000

Hello Daniel,

Just a long shot - have you got any invites left ? (michael.inniss@gmail.com)

Thanks

By: Daniel Hölbling

Daniel Hölbling — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:01:23 +0000

Well Sander,
what I meant by replace a message board is that one wave is hardly enough to replace a message board. There is no way in Wave at the moment to have multiple waves be somehow grouped to people. By making it public anyone can participate (something I found out only yesterday..), but how do you allow people to start a new topic inside a community of let's say 50 people?
That's where I see the problem.

greetings Daniel

By: Sander Rijken

Sander Rijken — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:55:08 +0000

I agree that wave isn't very useful when only very few people use it, and the lack of tools. However I don't agree with your "Replace message boards" and "Replace wiki" comments. There are lots of ways already to make waves public (well public for people with invites so far), like:
- public to anyone (search for with:public to find them, add the contact easypublic@appspot.com to make it fully public)
- search for group:group@googlegroups.com> (public when you're a member of this group, hidden to others)
- embed in a blog. You get auto-added somehow when you interact with the embedded wave. See http://sander.rijken.info/2009/10/16/wave-test/

By: Daniel Hölbling

Daniel Hölbling — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:26:48 +0000

An invite should arrive during the coming week.

I agree that the technology has still way to go and mature, but at the moment I just feel like it tries really hard to replace email, while email already hat like 20 years to develop exactly into the tool we need it to be.

I've still got 4 invites to spare if anyone is interested.

By: Alexandru

Alexandru — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:30:21 +0000

I tend to agree with your remarks but let's see how it develops further, all technologies need some time to become important tools in our day to day lives, wave could prove more useful than u think . I'm curious about it, can u give me an invite, please .

By: Askhari

Askhari — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:39:24 +0000

Well, after trying out wave, I must agree that it does seem interesting, there are good ideas in this, but it fails to work for me right now.

Problem 01: as you said, it does a lot of things, but it does it with very little structure. Maybe I'm not used to it quite yet, but I got lost in my first wave with 3 participants after missing 20 blips, and that sucked – honestly, in an email, it would have been similar, but I would have got it splitted up.

Problem 02: Simultanously writing with a lot of people actually messed up the communication – who is answering to what blip and what does he mean? I'm missing titling and structure, micro-conversations between 2 participiants quickly messed up a whole wave.

Problem 03: Strangely Wave isn't working well in Chrome, so I have to use Firefox – as I only use FF for developing (with all the plugins I use it tend to get too “heavy” for surfing), I didn't check my waves a lot (so that's why your still waiting for your answer

- So I could imagine Wave for in-house communication in the office. But that's managable quite well with ICQ, the Fileserver and just going to the other room and talking.
- For communication with clients it's definitely not good, because it make you expect an answer RIGHT NOW.
- And for everything else, wave will be interesting in a year or two, where you can expect more people to use it. Until then, a lot of those usability inconvenience will be fixed, i hope.

So for now, it's what it is: a very early beta – let's see how it developes

By: zerok

zerok — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:20:46 +0000

For me personally Wave is primarily a collaboration tool and I've already participated in at least one really good one through Wave. That said, Wave in its current state is definitely over-hyped. Too many things are still very half-baked (if even remotely close to an oven.

By: Daniel Hölbling

Daniel Hölbling — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:35:49 +0000

Sure no problem. Just send me your Gmail account by Email or Skype. (It only works with google accounts)

Oh, and I strongly encourage you to look at it those 20 minutes are great

greetings Daniel