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	<title>Comments on: Source Control, Open Source and Microsoft</title>
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		<title>By: AnkhSVN 2.0 Subversion client for Visual Studio &#124; Tigraine</title>
		<link>http://www.tigraine.at/2008/07/02/source-control-open-source-and-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-1089</link>
		<dc:creator>AnkhSVN 2.0 Subversion client for Visual Studio &#124; Tigraine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] complained before that Visual Studio has no built in support for Subversion, as SVN is currently one of the most [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tigraine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Custom ASP.NET Membership provider</title>
		<link>http://www.tigraine.at/2008/07/02/source-control-open-source-and-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-736</link>
		<dc:creator>Tigraine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Custom ASP.NET Membership provider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] been ranting too much lately, so I guess it&#8217;s time to get back into [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tigraine</title>
		<link>http://www.tigraine.at/2008/07/02/source-control-open-source-and-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-729</link>
		<dc:creator>Tigraine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t regard version control as something special any more. The whole point was that version control should be built into ANY IDE. 

Team system is much more, the version control is only a small part of the whole Team System Server and I am pretty sure it wouldn&#039;t hurt their sales if they&#039;d give this to all their users.

SVN support is something they may never ever do (especially since the community is moving on to Git and Mercurial), but some kind of source control should be there..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t regard version control as something special any more. The whole point was that version control should be built into ANY IDE. </p>
<p>Team system is much more, the version control is only a small part of the whole Team System Server and I am pretty sure it wouldn&#8217;t hurt their sales if they&#8217;d give this to all their users.</p>
<p>SVN support is something they may never ever do (especially since the community is moving on to Git and Mercurial), but some kind of source control should be there..</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.tigraine.at/2008/07/02/source-control-open-source-and-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-728</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well it&#039;s a feature that people would pay for. Why should they allow/integrate it in &quot;Express&quot; editions. Those are meant as smart demos lacking the advanced features (like version control, lol).
They are a corporation after all. And they want to make money from developers as well.

Microsoft support of SVN? That wouldn&#039;t quite fit in MS history. Implementing the same thing with a big assed name would.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it&#8217;s a feature that people would pay for. Why should they allow/integrate it in &#8220;Express&#8221; editions. Those are meant as smart demos lacking the advanced features (like version control, lol).<br />
They are a corporation after all. And they want to make money from developers as well.</p>
<p>Microsoft support of SVN? That wouldn&#8217;t quite fit in MS history. Implementing the same thing with a big assed name would.</p>
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		<title>By: Tigraine</title>
		<link>http://www.tigraine.at/2008/07/02/source-control-open-source-and-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-727</link>
		<dc:creator>Tigraine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mark,
thanks for the link, I just updated the post.
But this still doesn&#039;t change the fact that CodePlex has no SVN option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark,<br />
thanks for the link, I just updated the post.<br />
But this still doesn&#8217;t change the fact that CodePlex has no SVN option.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Phippard</title>
		<link>http://www.tigraine.at/2008/07/02/source-control-open-source-and-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-726</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Phippard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is AnkhSVN for Visual Studio.  It is trying to close the gap with Subclipse and is a pretty decent product.

http://ankhsvn.open.collab.net/

FWIW, Microsoft&#039;s open-source group led by Sam Ramji have helped us (CollabNet) re-ignite this project so that Visual Studio would have a good free open source intergation for SVN.

I agree it would be better if Microsoft would allow these clients to run in the Express versions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is AnkhSVN for Visual Studio.  It is trying to close the gap with Subclipse and is a pretty decent product.</p>
<p><a href="http://ankhsvn.open.collab.net/" rel="nofollow">http://ankhsvn.open.collab.net/</a></p>
<p>FWIW, Microsoft&#8217;s open-source group led by Sam Ramji have helped us (CollabNet) re-ignite this project so that Visual Studio would have a good free open source intergation for SVN.</p>
<p>I agree it would be better if Microsoft would allow these clients to run in the Express versions.</p>
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